Comments on: BREAKING: Government Sells Out, Will Release NBN Report for $3,631.99 http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/ Australian Technology News Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:26:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: National Broadband Network Secrecy | Tech Wired Australia - Australian Technology News - IT News and Reviews http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-8989 National Broadband Network Secrecy | Tech Wired Australia - Australian Technology News - IT News and Reviews Sun, 03 May 2009 15:54:25 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-8989 [...] all but a summary from the expert panel report, which we known consists of 913 pages thanks to the FOI application. “They only released a 3 page extract that tells us bugger all,” Minchin responded [...] [...] all but a summary from the expert panel report, which we known consists of 913 pages thanks to the FOI application. “They only released a 3 page extract that tells us bugger all,” Minchin responded [...]

]]> By: Ian http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-7112 Ian Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:12:07 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-7112 Wow, $15 and $20 an hour! Ask for a detailed timesheet! Wow, $15 and $20 an hour! Ask for a detailed timesheet!

]]> By: Alex http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6797 Alex Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:31:39 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6797 From what has been said I would see that there is grounds to have the Documents release under both conditions of the "contend that the charge has been wrongly assed, or should be reduced or not imposed." As you have not proceeded based on the costs involved = "would cause you financial Hardship" and the "Whether the giving of the access is in the general public interest" seams a easy one as you have pointed out that they have stated that the process would be 'open and transparent’ Lots of Quotes there from the second page of the Freedom of Information application response & your article. Thanks & Enjoy From what has been said I would see that there is grounds to have the Documents release under both conditions of the “contend that the charge has been wrongly assed, or should be reduced or not imposed.”

As you have not proceeded based on the costs involved = “would cause you financial Hardship”
and the “Whether the giving of the access is in the general public interest” seams a easy one as you have pointed out that they have stated that the process would be ‘open and transparent’

Lots of Quotes there from the second page of the Freedom of Information application response & your article.

Thanks & Enjoy

]]> By: Dan Warne http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6790 Dan Warne Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:32:58 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6790 Wow, what an awesome bit of investigative reporting!! Great that you went to these lengths to get the report. Reading the letter from the department, though, it doesn't suggest that you will get access to the report if you pay the money. The fee they've quoted is just to -consider- whether you should get the report. The letter says on page 2 that if they decide to deny you access to the report (which I imagine they will) they will generously only charge you the estimated fee, and not more. Bastards... Labor was all about cleaning up these abuses of the spirit of FOI laws once they got into power. Of course, now they are in power, and power corrupts. Wow, what an awesome bit of investigative reporting!! Great that you went to these lengths to get the report.

Reading the letter from the department, though, it doesn’t suggest that you will get access to the report if you pay the money. The fee they’ve quoted is just to -consider- whether you should get the report. The letter says on page 2 that if they decide to deny you access to the report (which I imagine they will) they will generously only charge you the estimated fee, and not more.

Bastards… Labor was all about cleaning up these abuses of the spirit of FOI laws once they got into power. Of course, now they are in power, and power corrupts.

]]> By: Mathew McBride http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6753 Mathew McBride Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:36:48 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6753 I hope they use the good PDF redaction technique :) Oh, keep all the PDF metadata intact as well. *oops* giving them ideas. NO CARRI I hope they use the good PDF redaction technique :) Oh, keep all the PDF metadata intact as well.

*oops* giving them ideas.
NO CARRI

]]> By: David Forman http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6742 David Forman Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:14:04 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6742 Be aware that there is every likelihood that even if you pay the money, large parts of the document will be blacked out. Be aware that there is every likelihood that even if you pay the money, large parts of the document will be blacked out.

]]> By: you suck http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6741 you suck Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:01:16 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6741 techwired = all talk + no action techwired = all talk + no action

]]> By: Michael Malone http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6726 Michael Malone Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:13:09 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6726 Hey, if iiNet covered the cost of the FOI, could you then release the report publicly? My email address is readily available. Contact me if interested. Regards Michael Hey, if iiNet covered the cost of the FOI, could you then release the report publicly?

My email address is readily available. Contact me if interested.

Regards

Michael

]]> By: MrHasBean http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6723 MrHasBean Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:03:42 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6723 No Government in this country or any of the so-called free countries around the world want you to have any information that is actually worthwhile. Modern governments survive via the mushroom edict - keep 'em in the dark and feed 'em bullshit. "Lets reduce teen pregnancies by increasing the age of consent! Lets stop the drinking problem by increasing the legal drinking age! Lets reduce road deaths by reducing speed limits and increasing the driving age! Lets make the internet safer by putting a mandatory filter in place!" The problem with all these philosophies is that countries where the age of consent is as low as 12 have less teen pregnancies than ours, countries where wine and beer is drunk with meals by kids from the time they can drink from a glass have less alcoholism issues than we do, countries with higher speed limits and lower driving ages have less road fatalities than us, so what the fuck makes these shit-for-brains idiots think that putting a mandatory internet filter will have any impact on reducing "illegal internet activity"? Unfortunately Joe and Joanne Lunchbucket out there who believe all the propaganda shit they see on the moronic box in the corner of their lounge room and haven't two brain cells to bless themselves with, will also believe that this crap will do what they are told it will do. Those of us who can actually think know different. No Government in this country or any of the so-called free countries around the world want you to have any information that is actually worthwhile. Modern governments survive via the mushroom edict – keep ‘em in the dark and feed ‘em bullshit. “Lets reduce teen pregnancies by increasing the age of consent! Lets stop the drinking problem by increasing the legal drinking age! Lets reduce road deaths by reducing speed limits and increasing the driving age! Lets make the internet safer by putting a mandatory filter in place!”

The problem with all these philosophies is that countries where the age of consent is as low as 12 have less teen pregnancies than ours, countries where wine and beer is drunk with meals by kids from the time they can drink from a glass have less alcoholism issues than we do, countries with higher speed limits and lower driving ages have less road fatalities than us, so what the fuck makes these shit-for-brains idiots think that putting a mandatory internet filter will have any impact on reducing “illegal internet activity”?

Unfortunately Joe and Joanne Lunchbucket out there who believe all the propaganda shit they see on the moronic box in the corner of their lounge room and haven’t two brain cells to bless themselves with, will also believe that this crap will do what they are told it will do. Those of us who can actually think know different.

]]> By: Samuel Bishop http://techwiredau.com/2009/02/breaking-government-sells-out-will-release-nbn-report-for-363199/comment-page-1/#comment-6721 Samuel Bishop Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:39:07 +0000 http://techwiredau.com/?p=3353#comment-6721 This is rather amusing... All those senators that are pushing for the release of the document... Think one of them has bothered to put this request in themselves & get a copy... Probably not... to cheap i bet... This is rather amusing…
All those senators that are pushing for the release of the document…

Think one of them has bothered to put this request in themselves & get a copy…

Probably not… to cheap i bet…

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